Saturday, July 16, 2011

Review on Executive General Management Program (EGMP) from IIM Lucknow (Noida), comparison against other similar courses - July, 2011


Finished the final exams of this program (phew!!) and thought will review the program when it is still fresh in the mind.

EGMP program allocates a total of around 220 hours across different subjects like Economics, Corporate Finance, Accounting, Strategic Management, HR, Marketing, Operations Management, Communications, Quantitative Analysis, Organizational Behavior. The course gives a broad overview of the different topics and while the professors and textbooks are world class, the number of hours allocated is on the lower side. This leads to difficulties from a coverage perspective. Also, some subjects like HR, Marketing seem to have more number of classes allocated and you just get the feeling that they are being used as filler material. Do we seriously care about spending a entire 2 hour session on industrial workers act, union act and which year those laws were framed? Opportunity to network with other students was also limited being a web-based course. Cost of the course is Rs. 2 lakhs for the year which is on the lower side for comparable course from other institutes.

What do you want to get out of this course? If you think this course is a MBA, then the answer is no. This course does not get you a degree/diploma nor is it going to get you a career change. Placements are not offered and you don’t get alumni privileges either (at least as of now). What it does for you is get you started – you get a flavor and decent knowledge in each of the areas. How much you want to take it further by reading on your own is entirely up to you. Azim Premji is supposed to have read up the books suggested by a IIM professor and picked up on his management skills while running his company (not that I am Azim Premji J). This course is intended for people who want to grow in their chosen industry (and are already in it) and want to get general management skills. Class is on all Saturday’s for a year – which means your personal life goes for a toss.

Business week article on “Is MBA overrated”: - http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_12/b3976089.htm

As correctly put in the article, getting a MBA is not the be-all or end-all. How far you “get ahead” boils down to how smart you are, how much effort you put in and how you can apply the knowledge you have gained. Going to an Ivy league b-school does not guarantee that you will get to be a CEO. Again the term “getting ahead” itself is based on your values – what you want to get from your life.

Given that the similar EGMP & PGSEM courses offered by IIM Bangalore also do not offer placements and are also not good for career changes, do not see too much of a difference between the courses à difference comes in the cost factor in which IIM Lucknow scores hands down. You get more bang for the buck (“kasukketha dosai” in tamil J). If all 3 of them are focused on “long term knowledge” and do not offer immediate jump in career/placements, ROI wise this program may be better – just my 2 paisa. Of course, you have the IIM brand. How you take what you have learnt and manage your career is entirely up to you.

EGMP (IIM Lucknow)

EGMP (IIM Bangalore)

PGSEM (IIM Bangalore)

Duration

1 year

1 year

2.5 years

Cost

2 lakhs

3.75 lakhs

8.5 lakhs

Contact hours

225

250

900

Format

Web

Web/Direct

Direct

Placement

No

No

No

Degree/diploma

No

No

Yes


Overall rating: 3/5

Positives: IIM brand, textbook standards, cost

Improvement areas for IIM: need to stop juggling profs constantly, structure the course better, increase the number of hours

14 comments:

  1. Hey Thiagu,
    This is a good review. Agree with most of it, especially the bit about increasing the number of hours. Also, it would have been great to have had more assignments (though I'm not sure how we would have managed that with work).

    Best,
    Shama

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  2. Hi TKT: Nice review...it would have been better if you mention the good alternatives for the same, since i am also planning for the EGMP.If possible give me your email id /contact#, to get in touch with you and share opinion on the same.

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    1. Hello GK....can you cotact me in this email id for further...I am interested.....anandihmes@gmail.com

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    2. Hello GK....can you cotact me in this email id for further...I am interested.....anandihmes@gmail.com

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  3. Thanks for your review. I am actually looking at this course to get an overall idea on General Management just to start with. i agree that this course is not an MBA. 2 yrs back I wrote IIMK written test for executive programme and got a call for interview, but after looking at their fee structure, I declined that. Even, IIMB also has quite high fee structure (4.5L + tax!!). Surprisingly, general management course for IT is costlier.
    So do you say it's value for money?

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  4. Hi Dear,

    Thanks for this Review, its is very helpful to understand this program.
    I believe you are actively searching something to take your career step ahead. What is your suggestion or any other recommendations from you ??

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    1. Hi,
      I am non management back ground working in software company as a QA Analyst and fed-up with my work.Happy 3 years of exp in QA done. I got selected for this program. requested you all experienced guys to suggest me is that course help me to get into different domain like business analyst or some MBA back ground domain job.
      Is that help me to get into good MBA college because i am preparing for CAT as well.

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  5. This EMBA is good only for getting you an advantage in the annual promotions in your company.Its not usefull for getting you a big job or change in profile in other companies.Mostly usefull for Pre sales, Sales,Marketing and business analyst profiles. Hardly usefull for Design, Engineering,Project Management and Quality rofiles. This will give you a boost in street level discussions with the IIM tag on your business card giving you an edge.Join only if you are already into managerial/sales/marketing profiles or work, so that you apply what is taught in class. Course content is more of an overview of various departments. Some professors are good and really engage the class though their questions while others just go though the slides. The final degree will state that you have successfully completed a certificate course in Executive General Management Program.For Project Management , PMP is more preferred compared to MBA.

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    1. please suggest me.

      Hi,
      I am non management back ground working in software company as a QA Analyst and fed-up with my work.Happy 3 years of exp in QA done. I got selected for this program. requested you all experienced guys to suggest me is that course help me to get into different domain like business analyst or some MBA back ground domain job.
      Is that help me to get into good MBA college because i am preparing for CAT as well.

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  7. Hi,
    I am non management back ground working in software company as a QA Analyst and fed-up with my work.Happy 3 years of exp in QA done. I got selected for this program. requested you all experienced guys to suggest me is that course help me to get into different domain like business analyst or some MBA back ground domain job.
    Is that help me to get into good MBA college because i am preparing for CAT as well.

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  8. I agree with you. Thank you for sharing valuable information here.
    MBA Courses in Lucknow

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